Showing posts with label tom ince. Show all posts
Showing posts with label tom ince. Show all posts

Thursday, 30 January 2014

Swansea waiting on Tom Ince deadline

Protracted transfer saga seems to be drawing to a close


Tom Ince likes a road trip eh? Since speaking to the Swans he's been in talks with Stoke, Hull, Sunderland and Crystal Palace, which for a player whose main priority must surely be putting himself in the shop window,seems a strange way of going about it. OK, his name has been in the press a lot of late as a result (indeed I'm writing about it now), however this drawn-out affair is getting dangerously close to the point where it's damaging his reputation. A proportion of the Blackpool fanbase have been questioning his attitude and work-rate of late, and it's also affected Swansea fan's opinions too.

Yesterday I thought it would be interesting to see what the general consensus was, so on Twitter I asked the following question:


As you can see, it's split almost perfectly down the middle (albeit from a fairly small sample of the Jack Army), but personally I still think he'd be a good addition on loan. What's confusing me though is that it seems all of the clubs he's been to visit already have their maximum allocation of domestic loans - ok, Steve Bruce & Mark Hughes are both old mates of Tom's father Paul from his Man Utd days, but Sunderland and Stoke? Surely if you're looking to put yourself in the media spotlight you're better off doing it at a club still contesting European football than clubs who seem set for a relegation battle? I'm not saying we're completely clear of that potential obstacle ourselves, but still.

Rumour has it there's a 3pm deadline, but even though I do want him to come in he is stretching his luck now. With all details apparently agreed between Ince and the Swans a few days ago, he's surely testing the club's patience to the limit.

Either way, it should be a fairly interesting next 24 hours.

Wednesday, 29 January 2014

Tom Ince to decide future

Winger has reportedly agreed terms with the Swans but has been exercising a right to speak with other PL clubs


While I was expecting some positive news to be announced regarding Tom Ince's arrival by now, I'm still confident he'll be a Swansea player before too long. Blackpool have given permission for a loan move, and almost all of the clubs linked with him have already got their maximum amount of domestic loans (Palace, Stoke, Sunderland & Hull), so despite him going for talks with a couple of the aforementioned teams I'm confident rumours of him having reached agreement with the Swans are true. He was spotted down in the Marina after holding talks in Swansea, and was reportedly looking at accommodation:




For his part, Michael Laudrup confirmed talks had taken place and that Ince was considering his options. 

"I talked to him and his father [on Monday] and I saw on the news they have been with another club, and they will make up their minds as to what they think is best for him." 
http://www.clubcall.com/swansea-city/laudrup-waits-on-ince-1702941.html?

Hopefully sooner rather than later we'll be announcing our third signing of the window...

I did a profile of Tom Ince back in November, have a read here: link

Thursday, 21 November 2013

Huw confirms interest in Tom Ince

Swans supremo Huw Jenkins admits he's likely to speak with Blackpool regarding Tom Ince


Seems there is something in this after all! Talking to the Daily Mail (urgh), Jenkins had this to say regarding the likelihood he'll be contacting Blackpool regarding the availability of Tom Ince:

"He is a very good young player and one we looked at in the summer - I would say it is likely that we will be talking to Blackpool again. I know their chairman, Karl Oyston, and when the time is right we will make contact and see what can be done."  
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9032706/?

It's now a waiting game to see if Ince actually fancies a move to South Wales, or whether we'll be gazumped by a suitor with deeper pockets. Let's hope he fancies football over fiscal flatulence. 

For a look at how he compares to Nathan Dyer & Wayne Routledge based on this season's performance, check out a piece I did the other day full of lovely statistics:


Would you like to see Tom Ince brought in? How much should we be looking to pay for him? Would you rather see someone else brought in? If so, who would you pick? Get involved using the new MatchChat tool directly below every piece!

Monday, 18 November 2013

A profile of Swans target Thomas Ince

Tricky winger has been courting attention for a while, but how do his stats compare to the Swans' wingers?


We've been linked with Tom Ince before. In fairness though, pretty much everyone has been linked with him at some point, however it is now rumoured he fancies a move to the Swans over various other suitors. Given Cardiff had previously agreed terms with both the player and the club during the summer (as reportedly widely by the BBC and others) before Ince himself pulled the plug on the move, it would surprise me if only six months later he turned around and said "I want to move to the Swans" but stranger things have happened in football I guess.

A tricky left-footed winger, Ince started out at Liverpool (one of his dad Paul's previous clubs), but failed to break into the first team. A short spell on loan at Notts County followed, before Blackpool managed to snaffle him up in a deal which saw a nominal amount of compensation awarded to the Merseyside club. There was, however, a 35% sell-on fee added into the contract, so this explains the lofty price tag that's been attached. With just over six months to run on his contract Blackpool are looking to cash in, but they're aware that unless they get over £5million for him they're unlikely to receive much in the way of a financial boost.

Stats then. The stand out statistic that jumps out at you is that in ninety-five league appearances Ince has grabbed thirty-two goals. Very, very impressive for a winger, and not far off the level of goal-scoring Sinclair was maintaining at Championship level. Can he step it up? Let's hope so. In all competitions he's got 34 in 109, but as he's not 22 until January you'd expect him to be able to kick on again before too long. I'm wondering whether Ince does indeed possess a shade of Scott Sinclair about him - let's hope he sticks around and/or manages to step up a level if he does move to the Premiership, as opposed to taking a bumper contract at a major club and rotting in the reserves for a year.

Now, I know it's dangerous comparing stats of players playing in different leagues, but I thought "Sod it, it's the international break and I'm bored" so I'm doing it anyway. All stats are sourced from Whoscored.com and based on this season.

First up - dribbles. Ince makes 1.9 successful dribbles a game, whereas Wayne Routledge has made 0.8. Nathan Dyer, on the other hand, has made 1.8 which reflects what fans have thought of late, in that he's been the more aggressive, forward facing option amongst the Swansea wingers. Ince is, alarmingly, dispossessed 3.5 times a game - over triple either Routledge's 1 or Dyer's 1.1. I guess that, coupled with his high average dribble count, that means he's taking people on a lot. How successful he's been at it this season is something you'll have to ask a Blackpool fan, but six goals and two assists in twelve games (eleven starts) dwarfs the two goals no assists managed by Dyer, and the two assists no goals managed by Routledge.

As the saying goes, you've got to be in it to win it. Unsurprisingly, if you order the three aforementioned players by their average shots per game, it matches how they'd stack up if you went by their goal tally. Routledge shoots on average 0.8 times per game, Dyer 1.3 and Ince 2.9 - or 0,2 and 6 goals respectively. More shots, more goals. It also seems Ince has an eye for a pass, averaging 1.4 key passes a game (which really isn't bad considering the way these stats are compiled), a figure matched by Routledge with Dyer coming in just behind at 1.2. Like Dyer (2), Ince gives the ball away 2.1 times a game, with Routledge slightly better off at 1.7.

If you look at passes in general, Ince weighs in a fair bit lighter than either Dyer or Routledge. They complete 36.2 and 35.6 passes at 86.8% and 83.4% respectively, whereas Ince completes 26 passes per game, averaging 81.7% accuracy, but as I've said before I believe that pretty much any player coming in to the Swans' setup will see a rise in these kind of numbers. Ince also makes more long range passes. 1.6 crosses and 1.5 successful long balls per game beats Dyer & Routledge all ends up - Dyer makes 0.7 and 0.1, Routledge 0.5 and 1.1 respectively. Given Bony's penalty-area presence, that's a criminally small output from players who are supposed to provide the striker with ammunition.

Defensively, Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge both have their strong points, whereas Ince...doesn't really. Dyer makes 1.6 tackles per game, which outweighs Routledge & Ince (both 0.7), and Routledge makes 1.5 interceptions per game - better than either the 0.7 averaged by Ince or the 0.4 Dyer accrues. Again, it's a different system he's playing in, and a different league, but it does make for interesting reading.

Now that I've had a look through some stats, I'm getting the feeling of a raw talent. Whether he's someone who'd fit in with how we do things here I can't personally say, but it appears the powers that be in SA1 hold him in high regard. If you're talking in general terms, however, he's young and British - a combination that's known to be looked fondly upon in these parts - and rightly so.

It seems all that remains to be seen is whether talks of a deal between Blackpool & the Swans are premature, or if they are indeed on the mark. Personally, I do think the money that was being talked about (around £7million or £8million) is too rich for our tastes. It's fairly openly acknowledged the only reason his fee is so high is because Blackpool want to maximise the profit, so the buying club may well have to drag out negotiations until deadline day in order to knock a million or two off the asking price.

This leaves Ince at a strange crossroads where unless something gives, Blackpool could face losing him on a free in the summer. That seems an unlikely eventuality if money is on the table though, so you never know - Huw could pull one of his super-duper deals out of the hat. It must be said though, that a loan with a view to a permanent deal seems much more likely, given our (justified) reluctance to spend serious money in January.

I'll finish this up with a video - see for yourselves what we could be getting. Would you like to see Ince brought in? If not, who else would you like to see strutting their stuff in SA1?




Swansea rumoured to be in for Tom Ince

If forum gossip is to believed, a deal which sees him join us in January may already have been agreed


Conflicting reports, people. If I'm honest, my head is telling me there's nothing in this but a few people seem to be of the belief that, contrary to reports in the Blackpool media, Tom Ince is willing to make the move to South Wales after all - a few months on from knocking back our beloved mates in blue and red up the road.

Whether or not you choose to believe this kind of thing depends on your glass-half-full attitude I'd imagine. It's all stemmed from forum chit-chat if truth be told, but that hardly disqualifies it from the realms of truth, as numerous stories have started out amongst fans before indeed being proven to be accurate. Personally, as much as I want this to be true I'm struggling to believe it.

The Swans have operated in a financially cautious way for so long now, that after our summer spending I simply cannot see us agreeing to pay £7million in January for anyone. When you couple that with the fact that Ince's contract is up this summer, it seems even more unlikely that Huw would stump up that kind of cash for a player who isn't yet proven at the top level. It's a lot of money to spend on a player who could, unless he sets the Premier League alight, end up being another squad rotation winger. 

Dyer cost £400k, Routledge £1.5million - ok, so Pablo cost £5million but if you look past his injury record the guy is a)class and b) has some serious pedigree. £7million for Ince shows the inflated nature of the British market perfectly, as well as highlighting how the current transfer window system can conspire to eke out a bit more cash from the buying club.

If it was a loan with a view to buy in the summer I'd understand it more, and who knows - it could well be. In the meantime, however, I'm off to look at his stats so far this season. Tom Ince - let's see your numbers...

Monday, 1 July 2013

Bony transfer very much back on, and the Swans bid for Tom Ince

Huw reported to have met with Ivorian striker's representatives today


There's been a lot of talk that the Swans' chairman has today tried to iron out the finer details of a £10.2million transfer for Wilfried Bony, in what had started to look like the typical protracted Swansea transfer saga. Thankfully, it appears that won't now be the case, as if a bidding war had broken out you can bet your bottom dollar Huw would have got on the first plane home (if he allows himself the frivolity of air travel) and wouldn't dream of moving from what he felt was a fair price.

I get the feeling that all of the stories we've seen in the last two days regarding other strikers we may make moves for have been serving a purpose, and that purpose was to let Vitesse know we weren't going to stand around while they waited for a bigger offer from, say, Newcastle or Chelsea. The player himself has come out and said he wants to join the Swans, and with everything pointing to this being tied up soon we could well be seeing a new addition being unveiled very shortly. 

If this comes off, Huw will have played a blinder.

Tom Ince latest player to attraction the Swans' attention


Skysports are reporting that we're now involved in a battle for the signature of Tom Ince, who's currently playing for his father at Blackpool. That lends nicely to some mad quotes, the type of which you don't see that often:

"Cardiff have come in massively for Thomas and the chairman has accepted their offer, but Thomas loves it here and has told me he's in no rush to leave the club. 
"I think it's 50/50 at the moment. It's a tricky one for me. Ideally you want your son to be playing in the Premier League, but you also want him to be playing for you." Blackpool boss Paul Ince

I'd say the Swans must surely be a more attractive opposition than Cardiff, despite all the money that's been spend on Cardiff Bay over the last decade, and if we match their offer you'd be fairly confident that (if Ince wants a transfer) we'd get the man. The Independent seem to think between Ince and Bony we'll be spending £20million, so the fee for a player who last year set the Championship alight could well be more than the £8million which was reported as the going rate a few weeks ago.

I for one was a little disappointed we weren't going after Ince earlier in the summer, as I felt he was one of, if not the outstanding player in the Championship last season - and what's more one who's ideally suited to playing for the Swans. Fast, tricky and eager to break the line, he'd rejuvenate a forward line that seemed to lack a spark towards the end of last season, and with the possibility of Bony charging around the place too we could well see a vastly changed Swansea attacking unit. Ince, Routledge, Hernandez, Bony, Michu, anyone? Yes please!